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11楼 bonsim
等级:小学生
发帖数:11
回帖数:14
|  发帖时间 - 2006/4/12 9:13:39
| 以前 我做过一个沙特的客户，他先10% 的T/T，后面90% 是传提单后再付款。我们好像穿了提单，但是等他钱到了才发货。
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12楼 涛声依旧
等级:中专生
发帖数:70
回帖数:239
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/12 10:00:36
| 这样似乎不妥吧,如果是个厚道的客户,我们这样做可能就把这个客户丢了..
毕竟真正的B/L上是会日期的,等客户收到就知道你当初提供的肯定是假的. 以下是引用bonsim在2006-4-12 9:11:51的发言：
可不可以 作一张假的提单 COPY 给客户，等收到钱之后，再发货？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？？
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13楼 jqgrj
等级:小学生
发帖数:5
回帖数:45
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/12 10:36:23
| 这个问题很重要,也很头疼,多谢大家多交流啊
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14楼 涛声依旧
等级:中专生
发帖数:70
回帖数:239
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 14:47:27
| 油条兄,各位高手,前两天大家都谈了对土耳其客户要谨慎一些.今天我那土耳其客户就发了L/C过来,其内容如下:(不知道有没有什么软条款,风险大吗?)另,客户说可以先付30%货款USD82200.
:45A:DESCRIPTION OF GOODS AND/OR SERVICES
VANADIUM CATALYST,
AS PER PURCHASE ORDER NO:YG060409 DD 09.04.2006
TOTAL AMOUNT USD 274.000,00 (DOWN PAYMENT USD 82.200,00 )
FOB SHANGHAI PORT (INCOTERMS 2000)
:46A:***UMENTS REQUIRED
1) COMMERCIAL INVOICE WITH HAND WRITTEN SIGNATURE ISSUED IN
1 ORIGINAL AND 3 COPIES
2) FULL SET OCEAN BILLS OF LADING ISSUED OR
ENDORSED TO THE ORDER OF OURBANK AND MARKED FREIGHT COLLECT
AND CLEAN ON BOARD
3) WEIGHT CERTIFICATE IN 1 ORIGINAL
4) CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN IN 1 ORG ISSUED
OR CERTIFIED LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE INDICATING
THE THE GOODS ARE CHINESE ORIGIN.
5) PACKING LIST IN 1 ORIGINAL
6) BENEFICIARY'S SHIPMENT TELEFAX SENT TO THE APPLICANT FAX NO
WITHIN ONE WORKING DAY FROM
SHIPMENT DATE ABOUT EXPENDITION ***AILS AS NAME OF VESSEL,INVOICE
AMOUNT, NET WEIGHT OF GOODS,B/L NO SHIPMENT DATE AND PLACE,PLACE
OF DISCHARGE.
7-INSPECTION CERTIFICATE OF QUALITY IN 1 ORG
:47A:ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS
1-ALL ***UMENTS AND CORRESPONDANCE WILL BEAR
REFERANCE NUMBER.
2-ALL ***S. WILL BE SENT TO OUR ADDRESS AT 51D
VIA DHL OR SIMILAR SPEED COURRIER.
3-IN THE EVENT THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO CONTACT THE
APPLICANT IN RESPECT OF ANY DISCREPANT ***UMENTS
PRESENTED UNDER THIS L/C A FEE OF USD 100,00 OR
EQUIVALENT AMOUNT IN L/C CURRENCY PLUS SWIFT CHARGES
WILL BE DEDUCTED FOR EACH SET OF ***UMENTS.
4- IF DISCREPANT ***S ARE PRESENTED TO US, WE WILL GIVE
NOTICE OF REFUSAL AND HOLD THE ***S AT PRESENTER'S
DISPOSAL. HOWEVER, UNLESS ANY PRIOR INSTRUCTIONS TO THE
CONTRARY ARE RECEIVED, IF WE OBTAIN A WAIVER OF
DISCREPANCIES, ***S MAY BE RELEASED TO THE APPLICANT.
IN SUCH EVENT WE WILL HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO THE
PRESENTER IN RESPECT OF SUCH RELEASE.
:71B:CHARGES/FEES
ARE FOR APPLICANT'S ACCOUNT
:49:CONFIRMATION INSTRUCTIONS
CONFIRM
:78:INSTRUCTIONS TO THE PAYING/ACCEPTING/NEGOTIATING BANK
UPON RECEIPT OF CREDIT CONFORM ***UMENTS PLEASE CLAIM
REIMBURSEMENT FROM REIMBURSEMENT BANK FOR THE ***UMENTS
AMOUNT UNDER AUTHENTICATED MESSAGE ADVICE TO US CERTIFYING
THE REMITTANCE OF THE ***UMENTS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE L/C TERMS
AT LEAST FOUR TURKISH BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE
:72:SENDER TO RECEIVER INFORMATION
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT
*** End Of Message *** 请指教,您说这单可不可以做啊?TKS.
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15楼 HEYUAN316
等级:博士生
发帖数:6
回帖数:935
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 15:07:39
| 这个证还加了保兑的，你贴的主要是对单据的要求，从单据的要求来看没有什么问题。我觉得应该是可以做的。不知道装效期上有没有什么问题。
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16楼 涛声依旧
等级:中专生
发帖数:70
回帖数:239
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 15:25:58
| 谢谢源哥,这个是保兑的吗?是不是"
:49:CONFIRMATION INSTRUCTIONS
CONFIRM "
就说的是L/C保兑的意思啊?
另外,我把上半部分贴出来给大家看看,请指教.开证银行好象是"土耳其担保银行",不知道信用怎么样? **** Message ****
:27:SEQUENCE OF TOTAL
1/1
:40A:FORM OF ***UMENTARY CREDIT
IRREVOCABLE
:20:***UMENTARY CREDIT NUMBER
*域名隐藏*
:31D:DATE AND PLACE OF EXPIRY
060621CHINA
:51D:APPLICANT BANK ADDRESS
*域名隐藏* I BANKASI A.S.
OPERATIONS CENTER
EVREN MAH. KOCMAN *域名隐藏* :20 B BLOK
34550 GUNESLI-ISTANBUL/TURKIYE
:43P:PARTIAL SHIPMENTS
NOT ALLOWED
:43T:TRANSSHIPMENT
ALLOWED
:44A:LOADING ONBOARD/DI***TCH/TAKING IN CHARGE AT/FROM
SHANGHAI PORT
:44B:FOR TRANSPORTATION TO ...
ISTANBUL
:44C:LATEST DATE OF SHIPMENT
060531 ***迟装运期是5月31日,这个没有问题.
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17楼 maleya
等级:高中生
发帖数:19
回帖数:196
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 15:27:03
| 各位外贸大佬:
您们好!
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联系人：邓艳
MB：13682253184
QQ:344827934
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18楼 HEYUAN316
等级:博士生
发帖数:6
回帖数:935
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 15:45:42
| 没错，那个就是保兑的意思。如果是WITHOUT就表示没有加保兑。看不出其他有什么问题。我觉得证没有问题，***要说的是不知道你们这个需不需要溢短装条款？
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19楼 JYCheung
等级:博士生
发帖数:9
回帖数:1006
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 16:01:52
| | 回16楼的. L/C上要求是ocean B/L.但你是FOB(为什么不做CFR?或是CIF?),货代是你的还是客户的?若是客户***的货代,无法出具OCEAN B/L.若是你方委托的货代,则可以做. FOB下用L/C作为付款方式是对的,但同时亦要求出船东单保障自我利益.
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20楼 涛声依旧
等级:中专生
发帖数:70
回帖数:239
| 发帖时间 - 2006/4/13 16:04:17
| 谢谢源哥,下面这个条款的意思不是很理解"
4- IF DISCREPANT ***S ARE PRESENTED TO US, WE WILL GIVE
NOTICE OF REFUSAL AND HOLD THE ***S AT PRESENTER'S
DISPOSAL. HOWEVER, UNLESS ANY PRIOR INSTRUCTIONS TO THE
CONTRARY ARE RECEIVED, IF WE OBTAIN A WAIVER OF
DISCREPANCIES, ***S MAY BE RELEASED TO THE APPLICANT.
IN SUCH EVENT WE WILL HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO THE
PRESENTER IN RESPECT OF SUCH RELEASE." 其中"IF WE OBTAIN A WAIVER OF DISCREPANCIES, ***S MAY BE RELEASED TO THE APPLICANT" 如果把单据都释放给开证申请人,应该不妥吧.
请指教.谢谢!
P.S:我们这没有规定溢短装条款的.
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